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up front next, al qaeda rising, an increase in chatter, the state department to close 21 embassies in the middle east. plus new evidence in the whitey bulger trial. and ariel castro. one of the women returned to the house and actually wanted to go inside. we have that story for you.
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good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. cnn has learned that al qaeda is in the final stages of planning a terrorist attack. the threat comes from al qaeda in yemen. the state department has issued a global travel alert to american citizens abroad and plans to shut down 21 embassies. now this warning is broad, never heard of anything quite so broad before. how much more do you know at this point? >> well, erin, what our sources are telling us here at cnn is that the threat centers around al qaeda in yemen. they have been watching a threat stream. and they call it not the usual threat stream, for several weeks and in recent days. it began to come together. and they really do feel that
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they have a very, serious credible threat from al qaeda in yemen. the question on the table, of course is, is it directed at a target in yemen, a lot of concern about the u.s. embassy in yemen, but you have the broader threat that they're addressing by closing embassies across the region. so a lot of concern. some people are saying it's an abundance of caution after the benghazi attacks. but very senior officials are telling us that they believe this threat is very credible. >> obviously, benghazi, given what happened there, they want to be more than alert. and one of the things in benghazi is as you know that we've been reporting for the documentary next week is that u.s. troops were not on a high alert level when that attack happened so they were able to get in in time. are u.s. troops at this point
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ready to go in an instant? >> well, there have been a lot of changes in u.s. troop disposition sense benghazi. and part of what happened at benghazi was they didn't have anybody close enough to make a difference. they didn't have a target they could really attack per se. things are very different now. you have marines in the region. you have marines on board ships in the red sea. you have them in europe, spain, italy. just several hours away by hour. all of those marines now regularly in the region for just their kind of situation. but positioned, erin so they could go anywhere from libya to egypt to the persian gulf, to be able to go as many places, because the big problem in a terrorist attack is you may not know ahead of time where it's coming from. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. i want to bring in now our intelligence security analyst
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along with the supreme allied commander wesley clark. i want to start with you. a threat in and of itself is not unusual. but a blanket warning across an entire region, that is unprecedented. what do you think they're looking at? >> you know, it is. 21 embassies and consulates is a lot. this is sending a message that we're under serious threat. i take it seriously. the worldwide travel, you know, warning is also very serious. i think they probably picked up some very good chatter, very specific that something's going to happen this sunday. at the same time, they can't say whether this is a misdirection, that they're planning actually to attack someplace else, maybe in the united states, maybe in europe. it's hard to tell, but they're obligated to put this warning out. >> >> and let me ask you about what bob just said. it may happen somewhere else. this is an unprecedented sort of
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thing that's just happened, right? so it's one thing or the other, right? the u.s. government either does know what they're planning and is doing this blanket because they don't want the terroris to know that they know or the u.s. government is afraid, but they don't know where themselves the strike will be. which do you think it is? >> my guess is we know a little bit more than what's being said publicly. obviously if we've got lines on what the terrorists are saying, we may be able to deter it. that's good, better if we can take the terrorists out. we don't know what the ultimate play is here. but i've got a lot of confidence in the people who set this up behind the scenes in the state department and in the pentagon. i think we've got a lot better grip on this than we did during benghazi. we're ready for it. i'mshire there's a lot more than just marines standing by.
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>> they're saying they're doing this on sunday. sunday, obviously is just before the end o fasting time in muslim faith of ramadan, but it's not after it. it's before it ends. so what about the specificity of that day? because there's another question i have. the terrorists just readjust and do it another day, or to your point, in another place in the united states. would they be able to from what you know about al qaeda to have that flexibility and to shift? >> oh, they've got the flexibility. but i think the intelligence has picked up a specific date. that's why they mentioned it. it's a graphic warning, and a warning they can't let pass in case something happens. but on the other hand, they're certainly prepared to look at this to see if the attack's pushed back. it doesn't have to be in yemen. remember before 9/11, the alerts for the first month were about attacks in turkey.
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and of course they happened in new york and washington. they're looking at this right now to see if they're not trying to deceive us, which is always possible. >> which, of course is frightening, because we haven't seen that same kind of alert level raised here at the homeland. let me ask you, general clark. last summer i broadcast in the border of northern mali. the last night we were there was when the president was at a fund-raiser. we said the president just said that. it does not feel that way the place we are now. but the president has said it many times and many ways that al qaeda is on the run. let me play it for you. >> we've got al qaeda on the run. most of them are now on the run. al qaeda is on the run, and we got bin laden. al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. >> it may be a new al qaeda, a more splintered al qaeda, but they don't, certainly, when you
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look at the most broad response in american history, you're closing 21 embassies, certainly don't seem to be on the run. >> i think we've got to be on the alert for this. yes, we did take out osama bin laden. and as soon as the next chief pops up we take him out in the central node of al qaeda. it's still dangerous. and it can transform itself. you've got people who spend their lives plotting how to hurt americans. so until every one of those people is eliminated or they change their motivations, we've got a continuing issue. i think what the president was trying to say was the central nervous system of the old al qaeda has been broken and broken down and decapitated with getting rid of osama bin laden. and that's a good thing, but it's not the end of it. >> thanks to each of you. as many of you know, we have devoted much of our program over
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the past year to the benghazi attacks and their afteras a matter of fact. please join us on tuesday night at 10:00 eastern, the truth about benghazi. we're going to go back to that fateful night. and we're going to be speaking to the families of those who lost their lives. that is tuesday night at 10:00 and 7:00. 7:00 pacific, 10:00 eastern. still ahead, edward snowden's new life. he already has a home and a job in russia. not joking. plus the defense rests in the whitey bulger trial. and then hawaii's controversial new plan to help the homeless. it involves a free plane tickets. and lawmakers in iran throw down. we'll show you the full fight later in the show. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing.
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break news tonight about a potential danger that people have been eating. tonight the parent company of two major restaurant chains said they've served salad mixes that are linked to cyclospora, those are red lobster and olive garden. tonight the fda says it has traced the prepackaged salad mixes to a farm, a farm in mexico. they don't know yet if the salad mix is linked to a wider link to
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food poisoning. so far they have located a farm in mexico. and now, our second story out front, edward snowden, the cash cow. today we caught the first glimpse. nsa leaker. he's happy. land of the free, russia. he was granted temporary asylum in russia. he has already been offered a job at the russian equivalent of facebook. we have this outfront investigation. >> reporter: it may not have been julian asaungs's dream to become a movie star, but a new film could turn him into one. >> if we could find one whistle
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blower, someone willing to expose those secrets, that man could topple the most powerful and most repressive of regimes. >> reporter: this will be released in october with a big cast, big hopes for success and a big target on it for counter culture types who may not like the idea of their heroes being put forth this way. >> it's a mass propaganda attack, part of corrupt culture. >> reporter: that may be as they're taking the story of whistle-blowers and running with them. this is called snowden run 3d. the creator says i do not support mr. snowden's actions, though his bravery and sense of altruism -- >> the other two, they slammed
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him to the ground. and the fourth one like jumped on his back. >> reporter: and on a goes. the maker of this film called taxi to the dark side is now working on a movie based on army private bradley manning who was found guilty of spying just this week. all of this is ironic in a wray. the central characters took action because they were upset over the mainstream media's unwillingness to cuncover certan deeds. and now some in the mainstream media to make a fortune based on their escapades. some films were wildly popular. zero dark 30 made over $100 million. and as long as that is happening, mass marketers will be interested in those stories. no secret there. what is not at all clear and this is whether or not the
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protagonist, the main characters are going to money, because the truth is many of these are independent projects, although many like wikileaks have struggled with cash in the recent years. it will be interesting to see who has the rights to all these stories. sfwlim' sure he will find a way to fight against that for all the guys that are fighting for him now. thanks. >> reporter: whitey bulger screamed at the judge today calling the trial a scam. whitey bulger's defense team finally rested toot. the alleged mob boss is charged with 19 murders. but there was another murder two weeks ago. a witness was found dead and a lot of people thought bulger might have orchestrated that killing as well. >> were you in the courtroom today. what did we learn about that? this was incredible.
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there might have been a witness there found dead and people thought he's still able to reach out and orchestrate, but it wasn't that. >> the whitey bulger trial has had a bold cast of characters. one owned a liquor store. he's at the trial almost every day. and his mob enforcer insulted rakes from the witness box. maybe it had something to do with the trial. it turns out it was a business associate who owed rakes money. >> mr. rakes was lured to this meeting on the promise of a real estate deal. however, that deal did not in fact exist. moody purchased iced coffees for both himself and mr. rakes for that meeting. he alleged that the defendant moody laced one of those coffees
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with two teaspoons with potassium chloride. >> he was found wearing the same clothes. no identification, keys or cell phone. so sort of solved. >> pretty incredible when you think oh, this is in the past. these people are still killing even other, poisoning each other. it's unbelievable. the defense team rested today. but there was a chance he was going to testify. and you were there when it was announced three wasn't. what went down? >> everyone was on pins and needl needles. people's hearts were racing. his lawyers had prepared him to testify just in case. they waited until the very last witness to inform the court that the answer was no. well, the judge questioned bulger about the decision. he got really angry. he was shaking his fingers. he said he didn't get a fair trial, this is a sham.
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do what you want with me. the wife of one of the murder victims shouted you're a coward. he wanted to make the case that he was given immunity by the strike force which is run by the justice department. but remember, he's accused of 19 murders and 13 counts of extortion and racketeering. his lawyers spent weeks arguing that bulger was not an informant. that raises the question, what was he providing in exchange for this alleged immunity. the judge told him that his choice -- his team put on ten witnesses. and that's compared to the government's more than 60. closing arguments set for monday. the fate of james whitey bulger will be decided. >> i know there's actors in there watching testimony. thank you. and still to come, the return of david petraeus.
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and then trayvon martin's hoodie. it's still around. is it an important civil rights symbol? >> and a dramatic announcement in the arkansas jailbreak tonight. ♪ [ female announcer ] when your swapportunity comes, take it. ♪ what? what? what? [ female announcer ] yoplait. it is so good. it guides you to a number that will change your it guides you to a number life: your sleep number setting. it even knows you by name. now it's easier than ever to experience deep, restful sleep with the sleep number bed's dualair technology. at the touch of a button, the sleep number bed adjusts to each person's ideal comfort and support. and you'll only find it at a sleep number store. where right now our newest innovations are available with 48-month financing.
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our third story out front, the dehabilitation of david
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petraeus. he is trying to rebuild his career and his reputation. >> reporter: he went from wearing four stars to directing cia spies to disgrace. nine months after an affair with paula broadwell, he is reinventing himself in america's media capital, taking a teaching gig. >> life doesn't stop with such a mistake and can and must go on. >> reporter: petraeus joins a long line of officials who were involved in scandals. public reasonings expert has covered everyone to -- take
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immediate responsibility. apologize to the right people, his wife and the american people. and remove yourself from controversy, meaning don't fight to stay on as cia director. it didn't hurt that the president granted petraeus a graceful exit. >> he has provided this country an extraordinary service. >> what could be a more attractive thing than that kind of sendoff. >> reporter: but his past hasn't been perfect. he was set to make $150,000 for teaching students three hours a week. >> my initial reaction was outrageous. >> reporter: the doctor says most would get $3,000 for teaching that seminar, and the school's mission is to provide an affordable session. >> once again, it's how he is
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quick on his feet. i would say before the ink was dry on that first story there was no story. >> reporter: but some becoming professors at colleges is nothing more than a holding tank. >> a sort of rehab center for people who have fail and need to regain respectability. >> reporter: he is also lecturing at the university of southern california. and as a private school it doesn't have to reveal its salary. petraeus wrote, you won't believe what usc will pay per week. still to come. one of the women ariel castro held captive returned to that house. we're going to tell you why she went, and why she wanted to go inside. plus a death row crisis in texas. the state is running out of the most important supply required to kill people. and i willy s l l l l ly -- haw
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welcome back to the second half of up front. we focus on our reporting from the front lines. what begin with an update.
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the anti-gay ban that president putin signed into law won't be applicable to the olympic games. you need to be polite as possible. well, okay, people who are there for the games, but not tor people in general. they say the outcry will not be quieted until the laws are repealed. the state of texas is running out of a drug which is used to kill prisoners. it is a drug they turned to last year to replace another drug they ran out of. it doesn't help that texas executes more than any state in the union. despite the shortage, texas is certain it will be able to carry out its legal obligations, ie
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execute its next prisoner. the mother of the inmate who escaped from an arkansas jail this week was arrested for allegedly helping her son. he was allegedly talking on the phone with his mother. then he hops through a window and jumps into a waiting car. and he's out. now according to the bureau of justice statistics, prisoners are escaping a lot less often. it's more than half the number who escaped in 1998. he is still on the lam tonight. it has been 727 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? everybody has to do their part. the latest revenue idea from the usps? they want to ship you booze. you have to pack it up, ship it,
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there's a lot of money. it has to be better than the clothing line that we told you about earlier this year. and now our fourth story out front. return to the house of horrors, michelle knight bravely made a last visit today to the house where she was held captive and tortured by ariel castro. the house is now set to be demolished as part of the plea deal. he was sentenced to life in prison. martin savage is out in front in cleveland tonight. the aggravated murder charge comes from michelle knight saying that he punched her so hard in the stomach that she was forced to abort children multiple times. what else did she do? >> reporter: well, you know, it's pretty remarkable. apparently she went to that house and actually wanted to go inside. i'm talking about michelle
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knight. she could not go in. the sheriff's deputy stopped her. so she looked on the outside. then she went across the street. taheda, on the day these girls got away, she went to her home, used her phone to make the dramatic 911 call. today michelle thanked taheda. they embraced. and it was then that taheda said she had seen her of aboubefore, she was a captive through the window. she translated. >> she says that when seeing her, she wouldn't even imagine the things that were going on in that house. she would never think that that was her. and when she came by today, she asked her if the person that she saw standing in the screen door,
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if it was her, and she said yes, it was her. >> reporter: michelle knight is basically saying do you remember seeing me? because i remember seeing you out from those windows. it was just quite a moment for those two women to sort of come to grips with, erin. >> incredible that michelle knight wanted to go back in that house. she was the one who spoke in court yesterday. so far has chosen a different path than amanda angie -- and geena. who owns that home? >> reporter: it's owned by a land bank. the lanceu land bank sa planning to demolish that house next week. but here's the thing. they're being very careful. they want to make sure that in no way any piece of that home or anything that may be left in that home is somehow taken by somebody to used as a twisted
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souvenir. so it will be demolished in one day, but they will have security around that house and escorts as the debris is trucked away to make sure none of it goes into the wrong hands. >> people can be sick. what about ariel castro? the day of the sentencing. where is he now? what happens now. >> reporter: well, he's supposed to be transported. exactly when he's going to be transported to his next stop in his thousand year journey, as it is, for security reasons, they won't say, but he's going off to about 30 miles to what is the welcoming center for the entire ohio penitentiary system. he'll be evaluated for several weeks and they'll figure out where to place him. psychologically and medically he's going to be checked out. and it's possible he could go to any number of potential sites, but he'll be there a long, long time, life plus 1,000 years. >> i know it matters a lot who
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he's with and how they'll treat him. thanks so much to you, martin. >> reporter: you're welcome. at least two of the women have gone back to the house where they were held captive and abused. but you have to ask why. i want to bring in our clinical psychologist. you have gina dejesus going back. michelle wanted to go back in the house. what does that say to you? >> before the last time when they saw the house it was to escape from the house. and that was a major fear. that was a horror for them. now they're going back to look at that house, because now they can master that part of their lives. now they can look that fear right in the eyes. they don't have to develop a phobia around that house or any other house or anything that reminds them as to what happened to them. so this is actually very, very smart. it's an incredible technique.
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again, i just, i tip my hat to them that they tried so hard to be on this road to recovery. and that is the next step in mastering that fear. >> now michelle knight not only went to the house, but she spoke in court. in that incredibly poignant moment yesterday. amanda berry had her sister speak out in court. and she's still have be problems. i just wanted to play what she said. >> she does not want to talk about these things. she has not talked about it. and she does not want other does talk about these things. >> that's her sister. of course we have seen amanda, though. she was at a concert dancing with a young man very close. and she's the one who has a daughter. so what do you make of amanda? >> it's very interesting. i think this really does row mind us that everyone recovers
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in their own way, at their own time. we're all different individuals. she was the one, if you remember, who broke free. >> who made that 911 call. >> who made the 911 call. and it was completely courageous what she did. but even she being the courageous one needs time to be able to come back from this thing. so we have to respect that. and her going to the nellie concert, i think may be part of, look, i need something to take my mind off of this horror, but i don't want to discuss it. i don't want people to talk about this, because of my daughter. i'm trying to shield my daughter. so there are many different reasons, but i don't see it so much as a set back. just that she needs more time. and we're going to see sometimes that it takes a different path for these three young women. >> all right. thank you very much. well, still to come, should trayvon martin's hoodie end up
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in a museum? because that is what is about to happen. our panel weighs in. plus u.s. lawmakers are outraged tonight. some say it was a decision that was a slap in the face to america. and i wihawaii has a way top the homeless. politicians gone wild. lawmakers in taiwan, they had water ready. they threw it at each other over a debate over a power plant. two wrestled on the floor before being separated. others blocked the doors with furniture. our shout out goes to this ha maker who clearly came prepared, wearing a motorcycle helmet for protection. ]dc(ñqgñ/twg
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and now, to hawaii. this is a strange story about hawaii. they want to get the homeless out of hawaii home. they are cutting down on the services they provide by providing them a one-way ticket back to the mainland.
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lawmakers say it's another way to reunite families. so does this add up? >> reporter: it's a tropical paradise, with the nation's second rate of homelessness after only washington, d.c. >> hawaii is a premier place to be if you're homeless. we have a robust public assistance program. >> reporter: lawmakers have approved a controversial plan. >> we're going to send them back to their family, a strong support network system where they can get back on their feet. and third, we're going to save our taxpayers a significant amount of money. >> reporter: they say the pilot program is voluntary and will only rolo kate people who have someone to help them back home. still hawaii's department of human services says we remain concerned this program is an invitation to purchase a one-way ticket to hawaii.
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new york and san francisco both have been paying to relocate thousands of homeless people over the past several years. activists say only about two dozen have come back. >> i think the idea is a good idea. people often become homeless because they get separated from their support networks, their family, their friends. >> reporter: he's seen it work. he's seen them raised money, sometimes out of his own pocket for people to return home. this woman is a schizophrenic who ended up in hawaii months after be being reported missing from houston. >> she didn't know who she was or how she got here. >> reporter: when police contacted her mother, she flew to hawaii and paid for her medication. then she couldn't afford the flight home. >> we're leaving. >> and i thank god and all the people in hawaii. >> reporter: two years later, she is doing well, taking her medicine and taking computer classes.
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supporters of the relocation program say it is no panacea. out front, our fifth story, the hoodie's place in history. the smithsonian institution says it has not made any efforts to acquire the hoodie that trayvon martin was wearing the night he was killed, but the african-american museum which opens in 2015 has a different message. it became the symbolic way to talk about the trayvon martin case. so should this symbol become an artifact in a national museum? you're probably out there screaming yes or throwing an egg at the tv. this is a fascinating conversation. the hoodie did become a symbol for race relations. you have people out there
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protesting. you have famous people wearing the hoodie. for that reason alone, should it be in a museum? >> the museum has a larger mission. it's occupying this important space right on the national mall. the idea is it's about the durable achievabilities that african-americans have made, and about history. i think any project like this on the national mall is you don't want it to cover really near-term very political, very politicized conflicts. you want it to cover things about which we have a shared story. because frankly, if it's backed by taxpayers, it's going to be controversial. i think it makes more sense to focus on the civil war, things that we have a national story. >> people that might support this say well, this became a symbol of civil rights, which may be true. but as we know, the fbi has interviewed many people and has said there is absolutely no case here that this was a hate crime.
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so are you concerned that putting this hoodie in the museum would send the wrong symbol? >> i don't think so, erin. if you listen to, you know, a lot of the black callers that call my i think this is a civil rights issue. i think that in what we all thought as a post-racial america after reelecting the first black president twice, this was really jarring and particularly to a lot of young people. and it is, i think it is a formative moment, you know, as a -- you know, somebody was saying like we are not there yet because a lot of people are very emotional that nobody thinks this would have turned out differently if the races were, you know, reversed, and i think you just cannot deny that and you cannot under estimate, erin, these rallies all over the country springing up spontaneously not funded by the coke brothers or -- >> stephanie, your show has a
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political prospective that folks calling your show want this to be discussed ksh. >> it's not just people calling my show. how do people show up all over the country spontaneously? >> this is not about one political constituent. >> let's be honest -- >> my radio show had nothing to do with rallies around the country. people are very emotional about this verge and feel like someone shot an unarmed black teenager -- >> i mean, look at the mandate of the museum. their clear mandate is to spur conversation of issues of race and force healing and understanding. this trayvon martin hoodie is exactly that. that's why there is going to be things from slavery through entertainment to fashion with african american -- >> the handcuffs that were used to arrest henry louis gates jr. those are in there. >> we desperately need things to spark conversation on race. after the zimmerman trial, 80%
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of african americans thought it was time to have a conversation on race. i used to be white before 9/11 but realize i'm no longer white as a muslim american. so if this hoodie start as conversation -- >> this is exactly the danger with the museum. it's going to become poll lit sized from get-go. >> the department of justice says -- >> it's union and civil rights -- >> the department of justice says there is no civil rights case here. the fbi said that. the entire american system rules that, let's say, you would still put it in there? >> we can't deny the fact this hoodie represents something that's real and race relations. no post racial america. we have a race problem and empathy gap -- >> you're defining as a racial empathy gap and people -- >> erin, dean is right --
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>> last word, go ahead. >> there aren't kids showing up with hoodies saying we're trayvon. if this is not resinating with people all over the country who have experienced this kind of unequal treatment, this is -- whether people like it or not -- >> it's not whether i like it or not but the museum yum and appropriate for museum devoteed to african american history to something happening in the last 12 months. >> it says on the website that's one of the four mandates this is perfect for that. >> we appreciate and it want you to give us your feedback on twitter. now it's time for "the out front out take." stories outside the headlines and today we talk about russia. officially offering asylum to edward snowden. all right. you know this part of story, right? you probably believe snowden is a whistle blower or a trader.
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one camp or the other. the united states and russia are in a nasty spot. senator john mccain called russia's actions quote a slap in the face for all americans that senator lindsey gram echoed. as serious as this is and it is serious. we enjoy seeing what metaphors a slap in the face and politicians and media could describe how russia wronged america, take a look. >> when mr. putin first allowed mr. snowden to enter russia and remain at the airport, it was a clear poke in the eye of the united states. >> anything to poke it in his eye. >> poking his finger in the eye. >> poke the u.s. in the eye. >> poke his finger in the eye of the united states. >> stick his thumb in our eye. >> sticking his thumb right in our eye. >> thumbing their nose in the united states. >> stabbed us in the back. >> i feel bad now. all i could think of yesterday was punch in the face. maybe it was unique but then chuck schumer had to go and pull
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congress was hard at work today doing the best to cut ocho comma care. they voted for the 40th time to repeal the affordable care act
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a. meaningless vote. it was the 40th time. it was congress' last vote before the five-week vacation. they get the entire month of august off, plus labor day week. this is nothing new. congress spent less time on capitol hill than any of the previous five years. they average less than three days per week in washington and passed 561 bills, the lowest in american history while being paid $174,000 a year. to work less than three days a week. what do they do when they don't work for snus they work for themselves. seeking reelection this year raised $125 million. that's $30 million more than last year when all the money was flowing in. make no mistake, this is wrong, politicians running for election and reelection without governing, we know that.
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how about we vote on principal for the person that says i don't care about elections, i don't care about campaigning. i'd rather do the job and deal with america's problems and we don't respond to ads and bs. can we do it. thanks for watching. have a great weekend. have a great weekend. "ac 360 starts now. -- captions by vitac -- we begin with breaking news the signs point that attacks on america, the threat according to officials credible and serious. three sources telling cnn al qaeda and the a rainen pa innocence sieve, 21 american embassies and consulates scheduled to close on sunday from algeria to bangladesh. issuing a global alert for the entire month of august to americans traveling abroad. airlines are monitoring developments. this coming after a message surfaced recently online al qaeda chief calling for